tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8598055481128665978.post78176833054318935..comments2023-10-05T03:16:12.590-05:00Comments on YogaSlackers: The National Championships....a story that I only wish I could say was fiction...YogaSlackershttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06203911015740159671noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8598055481128665978.post-65059289402251457472012-12-11T03:05:47.354-06:002012-12-11T03:05:47.354-06:00outstanding reddit net Last year http://casinogame...outstanding reddit net Last year http://casinogamesonlinee@blogspot.comAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8598055481128665978.post-87832733603343751002010-11-12T00:43:48.365-06:002010-11-12T00:43:48.365-06:00Hey guys, thanks for being so vocal on this. I thi...Hey guys, thanks for being so vocal on this. I think it will result in some very positive changes in way future adventure races are organized. All controversy aside, congratulations on a phenomenal race. The battle between you and Osprey was epic and is what I will remember most from our time in Moab... you guys smoked the course!Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12141841376526402384noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8598055481128665978.post-70854808389512861922010-11-06T20:03:43.919-05:002010-11-06T20:03:43.919-05:00Couple thoughts - the analogy was actually written...Couple thoughts - the analogy was actually written by me (andy) of team yogaslackers as an alternative way of considering what we feel happened to our team and Team Osprey at nationals. we have indeed presented a more specific account of what, in our eyes, transpired. I know there's two sides to every story and in truth, the recent post by CP tracker on their website (titled 'CP tracker redux') would go some way to making amends, although coming as it does on the heels of some posts on prominent sites such as Gear Junkie, i'm not sure if it's too little too late. My thought is that some such statement ought to have been made immediately, or very soon after the event, rather than seemingly as the result of pressure from outside the organization. To anonymous - neither team in question made a decision to 'break the rules'. We were unsure about how to interpret them, inquired to the event coordinator himself, were told specifically to ask race staff, did so, and thus felt that we were acting in accordance with the rules. Other teams made the same choices we did, however protests were not filed against these teams (and therefore penalties not levied) because they were not 'in the lead'. I'm not bothered by this fact, as it's typical - top teams are always going to be the target of protests when they are deemed to have some advantage. I completely understand why teams filed protests, and would likely have filed a similar protest had i been in their position and felt, as they must have, that we had chosen a route that conveyed an advantage and was, according to their reading of things, against the rules. We chose the route we did because we thought it didn't matter and were close to the ropes and thought we'd get them out of the way. If the rules had been 'crystal clear' as CP tracker feels they were, i am 100% confident that we would have showed up at the ropes first anyway, or at least first among the teams that were aiming to clear the course.Andy Magnesshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10462464014137155123noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8598055481128665978.post-37208962334264170732010-11-05T16:11:31.112-05:002010-11-05T16:11:31.112-05:00As a fellow participant in Moab, I really have to ...As a fellow participant in Moab, I really have to agree with the YogaSlackers here: the race communication was either wrong or didn't exist. There was no opportunity to clarify information as the series director took pride in avoiding a pre-race meeting and anything related to the course. He didn't inform volunteers to provide racers with information to make decisions.<br /><br />The course itself was pretty cool, but the event was terrible. Count me out for any events organized by CPT in the future. Also, local teams had a huge advantage, as previous races had gone through all of this course before. I'm not sure how you get around that though.<br /><br />YogaSlackers: why the analagy? I see no problem saying what really happened without naming names (very honorable of you).<br /><br />A lot of teams and participants got screwed on this race. No one comes out ahead. In fact, if the sport of adventure racing had a flag, it would be at half mast after this debacle.Johnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8598055481128665978.post-20447319107976456072010-11-05T15:15:42.950-05:002010-11-05T15:15:42.950-05:00When were we supposed to clarify the rules? At a ...When were we supposed to clarify the rules? At a non- existent pre race meeting, or with a race director we never met?YogaSlackershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06203911015740159671noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8598055481128665978.post-5977644594455847122010-11-05T15:04:58.739-05:002010-11-05T15:04:58.739-05:00Maybe you should have clarified the rules before t...Maybe you should have clarified the rules before the race started instead of asking volunteers during the race. I am sure it was a cluster and the course was not designed well but you can't break the rules in a national championship and not expect a penalty if caught.<br /><br />Besides your logic is flawed. If breaking the rules as you chose by using a route was longer, why would you choose it if it didn't confer you any advantage?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com